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You are not alone.
His Holiness the Dalai Lama has declared:
"If there is any difference between who you are sitting on your throne, and who you are behind the scenes, then you should not be sitting on that throne."
You are not alone.
His Holiness the Dalai Lama has declared:
"If there is any difference between who you are sitting on your throne, and who you are behind the scenes, then you should not be sitting on that throne."
And
on two-faced teachers who deny or rationalize their unwholesome hidden
behavior, the Dalai Lama says to students of such teachers:
"You get
out. You let everybody know, you don't keep it secret."
(Quoted in
Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo, Into the Heart of Life, 2011, pp. 161-2)
Beloved brothers and sisters,
ReplyDeleteSome of you know me better; some of you know me less. About 8 years of my life had been fully devoted to Sai Maa, 3 years of them as a monk. I've got to travel with Sai Maa in many places around the world, to serve her as one of her personal assistants, and to share a very profound relationship with her. During this time I've been supporting Sai Maa to create the Ashram in Betlar, the Asram in Crestone and many other projects in Israel, India and America.
I'm sure that many of you heard me more then one time sharing my great experiences with Sai Maa, praising her, and expressing my deep devotion to her. This time I would like to share with you a different experience, maybe less pleasant, but not less encouraging. It is up to you to decide what to do with these words. I feel that it is my moral duty to share the truth, after all these years that I've been ignoring it and hiding it, trying to hold the 'picture' perfect for myself and for everyone else.
About one and a half years ago I left the Ashram and retired from the Brahmachari life. It is not any more a secret that as a monk I was in love with the woman that I'm currently very happily married to. However, that was not the only reason why I left Sai Maa. In fact, when I had to make the choice between follow my feelings or follow Sai Maa and her teachings, I chose the second option. As you can imagine, it wasn't easy, but I was convinced that Sai Maa knows the best- what serves me for the highest, and I was sure that her intentions are pure.
What made me reconsider my choice, and eventually follow my heart, was the understanding that as long as I am around Sai Maa I couldn't be free! When Sai Maa did not allow me to go to Israel to visit my family and earn some money, I've started asking myself the question: "Am I really free?" I was taught to think that the inner freedom is what important and not the external one. I was also taught that if I will obey, and will surrender myself fully to Sai Maa, as the embodiment of the Divine, I will eventually become free from my ego. Is it so?
What is it then a Self-Mastery? Mastering your senses and your desires so well that you would become a perfect puppet for Sai Maa, or is it about finding the Divine guidance within? I tried to think about all the beings that I knew along the years as Sai Maa's students, and I couldn't find even a single person, who is free to do as he/she guided to do without the need for Sai Maa's approval, and in the same time is still in good connection with Sai Maa.
Why all these beings that Sai Maa herself declared as enlightened, still has to obey her? Why does she get so upset when they do things that are without her permission or against her will? What about their Self-Mastery? And how come Sai Maa one day may give a person the title: "enlightened", and in another day may take it back? Is it really about Self-Mastery and inner freedom, or is it all about control?
ReplyDeleteThese were some of the questions that aroused in me. In the same time I was questioning my path as Brahmachari. For me, maybe the hardest part was to follow this path without my Guru being a role model. In fact, traveling all these years with Sai Maa, I've got to witness a being that is enjoying life ecstatically with all her senses. Sai Maa never tried to renounce life. More then that, you might be surprised to know that Sai Maa was having sexual relationships with some of her closest students! And it didn't really matter to her that some of them were married and had families.
It is a very deep moral issue, if it is OK for a Guru to sleep with his/her students. I am not here to judge what is right and what is wrong. I feel that some of those beings were deeply damaged by it, but they might also gain from it. God will judge. Nevertheless, it is very strange when a Guru asks her students to be brahmacharies, saying that it is the highest path, and being revered by the highest priests in India, while she sleeps with her students. Maybe a being in her state of consciousness is beyond such minor things that we simple humans call values…
Personally, I never believed in renouncement. I always felt that God gifted me with senses, so I may explore them, rejoice them, and use them for worshiping him. And Sai Maa demonstrated it better then any one else that I ever met. In some cultures and for certain beings it might be the highest path. Even in our culture, practicing celibacy for some time might be very beneficial. However, I do not think that there can be a highest path that we can all fit into. I know that I didn't realty fit into it, and thanks God, I was able to realize it soon enough.
On the bottom line, all those questions made me wonder if Sai Maa is really seeking to serve us for the highest, or maybe it is easier for her to control us, when we don't have partners (and even worth- children) that might distract us from serving her, and might remove her from the top of our priority list.
It always made me wonder why does she get so upset when someone leaves her, and create such a huge drama around it? Are all those beautiful beings that are leaving Sai Maa one after the other, fell from the top of the pyramid, because of the last and strongest remain of their ego, or maybe they simply felt that Sai Maa's teaching is not in alignment with them any more? And why does Sai Maa need all those titles that she "doesn't really care about"?
After all, we are all humans, we all have desires and different motives, and after traveling all these years with Sai Maa, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but she is not less human then each one of us. As beautiful and novel her goals might seem to be, it is up to us to find for ourselves if all the means are eligible to serve these goals, and what is truly our call. My last and strongest lesson from my experience with Sai Maa was to find God within, and to trust the inner voice of God more then anything else, including the Guru.
Sai Maa is not an enlightened female being she is a controlling destructive Guru. She is benevolent!
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ReplyDeleteI love Sai Maa, and I bless her. She is no doubt an incredible woman, with lots of love, great power and huge charisma. I had many amazing experiences with her, I learned a lot from her, and I do not regret the time I've spent with her. When my time had come to spread my wings and leave the nest, I did it, and I thank God for giving me the courage and the determination to do it, because it wasn't so easy. Nevertheless, it was definitely worth it!
I apologize if my words hurt your feelings in any way. I ask for your forgiveness for anything that I have done along the years that might had helped to deceive you, or to distract you in any way from the truth and from God. I cherish you as brothers and sisters on the path, and I wish you the best.
Love,
G
I have seen the teachings of Sai Maa attended programs and seen all of her videos at Darshan with Sai Maa in San Diego & Albany, all were full of lies showing her blood cells shining with light and videos trying to explain how skill full and enlightened she is, she is not unique at all. Darshan is simply a place for her to replenish her recruitments and to get your CASH! Her devotee disciples stand guard while you are there looking for the weak minded people and pointing her to there direction so that she can suck them dry like a Vampire ! Yes Like a Vampire ! She claims she is martyr of darkness and stupendous forces and she is NOT ! It’s total Bull-Shit ! She is benevolent!
ReplyDeleteI also knew a few followers of Sai Maa and yes they suffer from the traits of serious personality disorders. They have messed up relationships and can barely keep a relationship because they travel all the time are rarely there for there loved ones and always passive aggressive with the ones they love. They believe Sai Maa is the answer to it all and can help with any matter, they have even gone as far as selling out there own Mothers and believing that Sai Maa is en-fact there real mother ! They keep photos of her next to there very own beds along with Sai Baba and gifts from here and a photo of her on there cell phones. She demands complete obedience from her devotees and feels entitled to adulation and special treatment from her devotees, she dehumanize and objectifies people. I say whoever are the parents of these devotee disciples they need to wake up and get off there asses and stop letting abusers like Sai Maa off the hook and enabling her behavior and the traumatic impact she has caused on many peoples lives to continue ! She Preys on the weak !
I also say shame on the parents of the sons and daughters who are exploited devotees disciples of Sai Maa for letting them become so deeply mixed up with a crazy insane narcissistic abuser who has torn spouse’s, friends, families and peoples lives to pieces with her imperialistic, psychopath, exploitative actions! She has taken there wills, money (and even their bodies)!
SHAME ON YOU FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN!!!!!! HAVE YOU NO SHAME!!!! LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF YOUR CHILDREN BELOW IN THE HANDS OF THIS NARCISSISTIC ABUSER!!!!
She is fooling the Rich, She is fooling the Poor, She is fooling celebrities She is fooling hard working people who are struggling to make ends meet and put food on there families tables, she is even fooling educated people. She is not an authentic spiritual healer she is a fraud who has en-fact committed crimes in the name of enlightenment. She is a dangerous narcissist woman who is self-delusional in grandiose fantasy’s of omnipotence. There’s a lot going on at Sai Maa Camp that she wants kept under wraps.
Sai Maa is a good talker and she can win the hearts of the weak minded very easy.
ReplyDeleteBut what she is actually doing it is to following in the foot steps of her mentor Sai Baba, she is doing exactly what was doing with the exception of gold coming out of the mouth trick that Sai Baa would do. She is masquerading as a person that helps people when really its just to make a love of money bigger, she enjoys money and she admits it and sends the same message to her students, they are greedy and eager to get there feet in all parts of the world and in the work place.
I have been reading all the comments and all of you are correct about her and all you have also seen the horrible side of Sai Maa. One interesting comment I found incredible creditable about Sai Maa, asks us to question ourselves about of Sia Maa and they go like this.
Ask yourself: what are your thoughts on a person who:
-Expects others to bow at his/her feet when they enter a room and does not act incredibly embarrassed if someone does so?
-Expects that opulent music be played whenever (s)he enters a room?
-Tells others that (s)he – and only (s)he – can solve all of their problems for them?
-Encourages others to believe that (s)he is entirely omniscient and constantly watching them?
-Encourages others to believe that their entire lives are being consciously orchestrated by him/her?
-Encourages others to set up a shrine with his/her face on it next to their bed?
-Runs an organization in which people PAY (not get paid – pay their own money to the organization) to do clerical work for them?
-Tells others that they can do whatever (s)he wants to do – no matter how selfish or hurtful or irrational – because (s)he is a superior being to all others?
What would you say about this person? Would you say they are a wonderful human being or a seriously deluded, egotistical and narcissistic person?
Because literally all of these things apply to Sai Maa.
I was a student of Sai Maa and what I can say is that Sai Maa camp is purely wicked.
Right now I will not go in depth but I can say for the folks that are talking about her everything they are saying is 100% accurate!!! She does destroy relationships, families, even the lives of children, her job is to disconnect people from their families and loved ones, this is how she exists. She here =to literally tare people apart and ruin there lives so that they become dependent on her. This is how it works. She promises to essentially eliminate all your suffering and trauma bring you wealth and goodness and enlightenment. Fuel you up and make you feel good together with her to thrive together. Well folks its all fake and its a cult, but a dangerous one that is here in the US. Sai Baba had a mission and her mission is the same game. Anyone who is thinking of registering for Sai Maa or going to one of her ‘Be with Maa” events like “Global Unity Gathering” STAY AWAY ! She will make you her slave to serve her as she has done to the student devotees that work for her. I know because I was one of them.
Her Supreme Holiness of Rip Off Sai Maa is all just one huge neatly packaged mysticism cult organization, she is merely putting on a show. I have seen the teachings of Sai Maa attended programs and seen all of her videos at Darshan with Sai Maa in San Diego & Albany, all were full of lies showing her blood cells shining with light. Darshan is simply a place for her to replenish her recruitments and to get your CASH! Her stupid zealous Shaved head devotees bow down and yes they kiss her feet and worship there fake deity Goddess Sai Maa. Her devotee disciples stand guard while your at Darshan looking for the weak minded people, point her to there direction so that she can suck them dry like a Vampire. She rolling in the money its a big-business of cosmic enlightenment to the masses of weak minded people they attack everyday making millions.
ReplyDeleteI also knew a few followers of Sai Maa and yes they suffer from the traits of serious personality disorders. They have messed up relationships and can barely keep a relationship because they travel all the time are rarely there for there loved ones and always passive aggressive with the ones they love. They believe Sai Maa is the answer to it all and can help with any matter, they have even gone as far as selling out there own Mothers and believing that Sai Maa is en-fact there real mother ! They keep photos of her next to there very own beds along with Sai Baba and gifts from here and a photo of her on there cell phones. Some of these blue eyed, blinding white teeth smiling American devotee have even kissed her feet and placed there faces into the pillow where her feet were just present to absorb the energy from her feet. These Devotee are putting on a show but they are also SICK!
I say whoever are the parents of these devotee disciples they need to wake up and get off there asses and stop letting abusers like Sai Maa off the hook. I also say shame on the parents of the sons and daughters who are Exploited devotees disciples of Sai Maa for letting them become so deeply mixed up with a crazy insane narcissistic abuser with her imperialistic, psychopath, exploitative actions! She has taken there wills, money (and even their bodies)!
SHAME ON YOU FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN!! SHAME ON YOU!!LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF YOUR CHILDREN BELOW IN THE HANDS OF THIS NARCISSISTIC ABUSER!
This is an American organization that reeks of straight out deviousness! She is fooling the Rich, She is fooling the Poor, She is fooling celebrities She is fooling hard working people who are struggling to make ends meet and put food on families tables, she is even fooling educated people. She is not an authentic spiritual healer she is a fraud, she is a fake self-proclaimed god women who has en-fact committed crimes in the name of enlightenment. She is a dangerous narcissist woman who is self-delusional in grandiose fantasy’s of omnipotence.
I joined Sai Maa because my neighbor introduced it to me and I was in a very tough time in my life, I open minded entered it. But what I found was horrible.
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that surprised me about this cult was that they told me that you can chant for anything and everything and that is how all the sufferings and pain will go away, I set up an alter with photos of Sai Maa and could meditate and Chant, I still believe in the power of prayers but not on chanting for hours and definitely not to Sai Maa anymore. I religiously committed my self to the teachings of Sai Maa, to practice and study compromising leisure for it. I barely had time to do things I liked doing like reading books other than Sai Maa (because I was made guilty of not studying enough of their books), watching movie and meeting friends had become luxury for me and I conveniently denied myself such small pleasures believing that the mission of my life is that of Sai Maa as was also the life of many of the students of Sai Maa, they studied all her books attended most of her lectures in person and also via Internet Skype guidance meetings. She was always in there life in there homes on there cell phone everywhere. We all committed whole heartedly to this cause which is Sai Maa to relieve ourselves from the suffering of birth and death.
To be honest before practicing this Sai Maa philosophy I had no qualms about suffering because as a person I have been very open and truly enjoy living shamelessly no matter what. But she sold me the concept of conspicuous and inconspicuous benefits stating that at the moment I am receiving hidden benefits soon I will see their manifestation. She basically played with my mind and the minds of many of the students there making me feel emotionally unstable. I could not enjoy all the show work that was going on and also the kind of commitment they were asking for was for me spiritually wrong. This empire she was trying to grow just did not feel right. Chanting was also a huge thing but the chanting most definitely sets up vibrations intensifying your DELUSIONS and putting you into a state of at least semi-trance, making you much more receptive for the baloney to follow, everything carefully worked out by the puppet-masters Sai Maa.
I feel so horrible about it. It really made me think is this really worth the trouble to strive to be such and obedient slave to this woman who is really just human like you and I. They were working so hard to put on a show ever time that they even went as low as kissing her feet in front of people, throwing themselves to ground that she walks on. “Everything is Sai Maa” is what they would repeatedly say. Everything is heavily orchestrated right down to the last detail. Sai Maa says it’s the family that comes first and you must do all that you can to love and protect them. You work up your whole routine to fit into Sai Maa demands, endless meetings flying different places and coordinations and what not and truly for what really ? Sai Maa say something and does completely opposite of it, she forgets half the stuff she says and we were there to correct her English grammar and her missing statements everything is in a very filtered manner.
If you ask me honestly the majority of the students there seemed quite stressed and derailed in their respective lives and a lot of them had behavioral issues. I realized people seeking excessive spiritual growth with photos of a Guru on there walls and cells phones through these cults are not normal. They all have good jobs outside Sai Maa but when you ask them to speak about Sia Maa to someone who does not know about Sai Maa you can see the shift in the face and in there expression it’s not the face of natural person they always seem out of there heads eyes wide open smiling hard, overly nerdy and just not someone you want to be near talking about Sai Maa. They don’t fit in as much as they try, they just don’t fit in. I too was unconsciously on the path till finally by some fluke of luck I mustered the courage to question and analyze Sai Maa and decided to stop committing myself to Sai Maa.
ReplyDeleteI personally believe if your prayers are to be answered they will be without adhering to any cult or excessive spiritual practice and for some reason if they are not to be answered they will not be no matter how much do you pray. One of Sai Maa students “Lalita Shree Dasi” once told me that 70 percent of our karma is fixed its just 30 percent of which we can change… really? and that 30 percent is surprisingly changeable only when you practice the teachings of Sai Maa. I wish I had told her then to please go get a life.
SO I say to everyone looking for enlightenment or a spiritual leader, Stay STEADFAST away from this Cult cause that’s what it is. And to those who are still disciple students working for her, there is still time to lead your life own your own without these excessive obsessions to Sai Maa, you have to succumb to this illness and the amount of deception she has caused in your life and not be become little clones! There is life after Sai Maa every accomplishment will be your own (and you don’t have to thank the mystic Guru Sai Maa law)
This organization seems like good intent on there web-site but it is actually good business I’m sure of that.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87914616@N06/32218973964/
I joined Sai Maa because my neighbor introduced it to me and I was in a very tough time in my life, I open minded entered it. But what I found was horrible.
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that surprised me about this cult was that they told me that you can chant for anything and everything and that is how all the sufferings and pain will go away, I set up an alter with photos of Sai Maa and could meditate and Chant, I still believe in the power of prayers but not on chanting for hours and definitely not to Sai Maa anymore.
I religiously committed my self to the teachings of Sai Maa, to practice and study compromising leisure for it. I barely had time to do things I liked doing like reading books other than Sai Maa (because I was made guilty of not studying enough of their books), watching movie and meeting friends had become luxury for me and I conveniently denied myself such small pleasures believing that the mission of my life is that of Sai Maa as was also the life of many of the students of Sai Maa, they studied all her books attended most of her lectures in person and also via Internet Skype guidance meetings. She was always in there life in there homes on there cell phone everywhere. We all committed whole heartedly to this cause which is Sai Maa to relieve ourselves from the suffering of birth and death.
To be honest before practicing this Sai Maa philosophy I had no qualms about suffering because as a person I have been very open and truly enjoy living shamelessly no matter what. But she sold me the concept of conspicuous and inconspicuous benefits stating that at the moment I am receiving hidden benefits soon I will see their manifestation. She basically played with my mind and the minds of many of the students there making me feel emotionally unstable. I could not enjoy all the show work that was going on and also the kind of commitment they were asking for was for me spiritually wrong. This empire she was trying to grow just did not feel right. Chanting was also a huge thing but the chanting most definitely sets up vibrations intensifying your DELUSIONS and putting you into a state of at least semi-trance, making you much more receptive for the baloney to follow, everything carefully worked out by the puppet-masters Sai Maa.
I feel so horrible about it. It really made me think is this really worth the trouble to strive to be such and obedient slave to this woman who is really just human like you and I. They were working so hard to put on a show ever time that they even went as low as kissing her feet in front of people, throwing themselves to ground that she walks on. “Everything is Sai Maa” is what they would repeatedly say. Everything is heavily orchestrated right down to the last detail. Sai Maa says it’s the family that comes first and you must do all that you can to love and protect them. You work up your whole routine to fit into Sai Maa demands, endless meetings flying different places and coordinations and what not and truly for what really ? Sai Maa say something and does completely opposite of it, she forgets half the stuff she says and we were there to correct her English grammar and her missing statements everything is in a very filtered manner.
If you ask me honestly the majority of the students there seemed quite stressed and derailed in their respective lives and a lot of them had behavioral issues. I realized people seeking excessive spiritual growth with photos of a Guru on there walls and cells phones through these cults are not normal. They all have good jobs outside Sai Maa but when you ask them to speak about Sia Maa to someone who does not know about Sai Maa you can see the shift in the face and in there expression it’s not the face of natural person they always seem out of there heads eyes wide open smiling hard, overly nerdy and just not someone you want to be near talking about Sai Maa. They don’t fit in as much as they try, they just don’t fit in. I too was unconsciously on the path till finally by some fluke of luck I mustered the courage to question and analyze Sai Maa and decided to stop committing myself to Sai Maa.
ReplyDeleteI personally believe if your prayers are to be answered they will be without adhering to any cult or excessive spiritual practice and for some reason if they are not to be answered they will not be no matter how much do you pray. One of Sai Maa students “Lalita Shree Dasi” once told me that 70 percent of our karma is fixed its just 30 percent of which we can change… really? and that 30 percent is surprisingly changeable only when you practice the teachings of Sai Maa. I wish I had told her then to please go get a life.
SO I say to everyone looking for enlightenment or a spiritual leader, Stay STEADFAST away from this Cult cause that’s what it is. And to those who are still disciple students working for her, there is still time to lead your life own your own without these excessive obsessions to Sai Maa, you have to succumb to this illness and the amount of deception she has caused in your life and not be become little clones! There is life after Sai Maa every accomplishment will be your own (and you don’t have to thank the mystic Guru Sai Maa law)
This organization seems like good intent on there web-site but it is actually good business I’m sure of that.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87914616@N06/32218973964/
This Site is Fantastic and its doing a wonderful job by revealing the true nature of this cult and its leader Sai Maa. But, I sincerely hope this web site is not designed to help Sai Maa to better her filthy corrupt business, meaning she will have her devotees analyses the data given here to study and rearrange the practices of the organization. This is something she would do and I know this from first hand experience of just being with the group closely for a few years. Her Students and some of her friends in higher places conduct these studies to see how they can create a better community. Sai Maa needs to be totally and completely exposed, this is a battle against a World Renowned Spiritual Guru who is a Fake
ReplyDeleteI was a former volunteer for Sai Maa. Her devotee Students are self-delusional to the point of being so strong as to blindly enable them to promote immoral rationalizations and lies. She isn’t what’s claimed by devotees either, that’s for sure. These henchmen and henchwomen devotee students have taken Sai Maa’s cult scam beyond just stealing money from people and re-branded it as humanitarian work. Sai Maa sucks people into her cult under the guise that she is this great humanitarian who radiates love. Yet the longer you stay in her organization the more apparent it becomes to you that this is NOT all about love. It is about exploiting others for their free labor, about getting them to hand over their money to her organization in the guise of it being used for her “charities”. One can only wonder about their vested interests, given the HUGE amount of money this organization makes. Her being labeled a humanitarian is total Bullshit and lies. She duped so many people in to believing she is all knowing and full of light when she is en-fact a woman of darkness who cares only about money and more plastic surgery for her face & body.
I have still not fully healed from the trauma caused by my involvement with Sai Maa and her devotee students and separation from this group and from the subsequent stalking, leveled against me. I can tell everyone here on this site that I know exactly what you have all gone through she has life turned so many lives & relationship upside down, my respect to you all for having the strength and so much courage to speak about what she has done to you. I’m sure there are even more shocking truths to be reveled. I was lucky in that I had no other family members in this cult but there are many who brought there family members into this Cult to join the flock, these family members only joined because there sons, daughters, husband & wives were immersed in the cult and were afraid to lose there loved ones. Basically to protect there family member but fact they lost them to the deceptiveness of Sai Maa and her cult.
How many more ruined lives will it take for the people and the media to wake up to the fact that Sai Maa is a mirage she is a Fake and soon the veil will be lifted and the entire operation exposed for what it really is a theatrical mirage. The stories from her devotees that the Sai Maa is “perfect”, all knowing and all powerful...and thus inhuman...ensures that one day the pedestal of Sai Maa will crumble. These “true believers” continue to drink the koolaid.
The traditional Indian “mythic” world view of “spirituality”, “enlightenment” and Gurus must stop if we, as humans, are to evolve beyond the unfailingly, ever-repeating enactment of “fallen Gurus”.
Continue to speak up about what you endured breaking away from the webs of deception at the hands of Sai Maa and Do not let them win. I have been a part of this cult, I have seen how it operates from the inside, it’s clear that this is a Cult. If you have higher standards then you will never believed her scam but right now thousands of people are being physically and mentally abused by Sai Maa and this cult organization.
I did go to JOPH – Journey of Profound Healing and what I found was that Sai Maa defends the practice of cutting off ties with family members & friends. Sai Maa sells you this vision of a perfect community. It is anything but.
ReplyDeleteI was introduced to Sai Maa by one of her students or devotees, at the time I was having a really rough time with work and the time spend with my family. I attend the Journey of Profound Healing course and found it really strange, she teaches people to go “back to the womb to darkness” and to eradicate any life dreams, identity, authenticity and ego; essentially, to erase themselves. At times she would tell me I should leave my family and be happy, to escape from my troubles and simply walk away as she did with her family to her husband and kids years ago. She would say “Give it a try what could you loose the world is full of options, take the one you want”. She would make you question your own intuition. Needless to say I did not heed her advise at all. I also felt all the work that was really being done was more from the people in the class then from Sai Maa. She really try s claim to be infallible & superior during the class and i really makes for a strange environment. Her insight isn’t extraordinarily unique at all. She did not help people at JOPH to get their inner balance and self realization at all, she was quick to move on the next topic with everyone and quick to get there money.
One Journey of Profound Healing Just course one of many courses cost
(The program is limited to 30 participants)
$4,950.00 x 30participants = $ 148,500 FOR A WEEK
5 Journey of Profound Healing over the next few months
5 x $ 148,500 =
$ 742,500
Soon after taking the Journey the student friend told me I had to do more with Sai Maa which included Sava which is donating your time and working for free for Sai Maa and doing what ever Sai Maa wanted. Some of her student would travel to Canada and Japan around the globe just for her. That day the student so proudly admitted to me about doing Sava for Sai Maa a while back, it took place in a hotel and Sai Maa was talking a shower. She was folding Sai Maa’s clothing and was called on by Sai Maa while in the shower and there was steam everywhere in the shower, Sai Maa asked her to extend arm and give her hand, when she did Sai Maa grabbed her hand and placed it on her breast and asked her “What do you feel, is this the Breast of a 20 year old or a 57 year old” She responded “a 20 year”. She told me at first she was shocked but then realized what an amazing moment that she shared this intimate moment with Sai Maa and that en-fact she was amazed that her breast felt like that of a 20 year old. She told me this with a face I will never forget with eyes wide open of total adoration and joy! At that point I knew this organization stank of something really funky. The brainwashing technique, is very destructive at Sai Maa camp (especially on young impressionable minds) these students actually believes Sai Maa has mystical powers and that she somehow is ageless, well considering all the obvious plastic surgery she has gotten from all the money she has ripped off and extorted from thousands of people I’d say she that might be possible but not for long.
ReplyDeleteAfter spending some time with her students and Sava I could see how she uses her students to make herself money, and destroy other people’s relationships and lives. This organization is harming more then helping people, it will try very hard to make you leave your family along with loved ones and have you bruised very badly. I can also say this much and that is that she is a manipulative, exploitative Narcissistic person who preys on the weak minded. And to her students who all work with her they are all extremely delusional! Happily I’m no longer friends with any of them. Sai Maa is also a huge fan of Sai Baba the rapist and sexual predator, who has criminal sexual assaults charges who raped young boys and girls, that in itself says a lot and enough. Before you decide to join Sai Maa Google Sai Baa and take note. I say to everyone don’t take JOPH it’s a Rip Off and will do more damage than Good, there are better places you can attend to get help but NOT Sai Maa!
Just take a look at this photo, it say it all. Nuff Said !
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87914616@N06/32218979694/
This Guru sounds really, really bad, after reading all the comments, stories and doing research on her and Sai Baba I have to say I was appalled by all the pain, suffering and abuse coming from this organization.
ReplyDeleteI was told by someone here in Montreal about how wonderful Sai Maa was and how good the atmosphere is within this group, and what a good experience i would have......what a total deception.
Also after seeing the photos I’m sure as hell not going to see her at St. James United Church here in Montreal this coming Saturday, June 3. It’s not far from where I live and I was planing on going with this friends.
Well that sure is not going to happen and I’m defiantly going to pass this on and tell some other friends that were planning on going to not attend this gathering with this cult! SAI MAA LAMOOOOOOO!!!!!
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ReplyDelete"My name is J and I'm with _ _ _ News. I'm interested in speaking with former and current followers of Sai Maa. At this stage, I'm just researching. I've had a couple of people reach out to me about their experience with Sai Maa (or their family member's experience) and I'd like to hear from others.
ReplyDeleteI assure you confidentiality. Please download the encrypted messaging app "Protonmail" and reach me at
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- This is a reporter for a major US News syndicate. (one of the - CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC - category) They are trustworthy. For an article or piece to uncover the scandals would be the best way to shed light on the behavior of Sai Maa. If you know anyone who knows the hidden layers of money or tantric teachings, please forward this information to them.
The Sai Maa community is a sinister Cult!
ReplyDeleteMy Ex boyfriend is a member of Sai Maa and he is young not like the older members that are clearly insane once you meet them. We were together for four year and were very seriously in Love but then Sai Maa destroyed everything we built, our home our future everything lost. He spent thousands of dollars on Sai Maa’s retreats. The foundation and communication was lost forever. I’m here to tell everyone that Sai Maa is a horrible woman and how this organization works inside.
Each of its members are brainwashed into believing this woman is there savior and that she can only help them with what ever issues they may have, she uses guilt, fear, the manipulation. Nothing and I mean NOTHING gets in the way of there devotion to Sai Maa, you can ask them to pull back and take a break from Sai Maa and the answer will always be the same as my ex once said “he not going to turn his backs on the world of energy and the spirit of Sai Maa”.
Sai Maa is there Core, it is who they know themselves to be. They follow her around the world from country to country and travel for her. They spend little time with the ones they love the most because they are on conference calls all the time and traveling for her to be there at her ever need. It is very very Creepy. The things my ex boyfriend told me was very creepy and sad at the same time. The struggle to keep the balance in the relationship was hardest since Sai Maa was controlling him day and night, on the phone, Internet and by his mind. He also told me “Sai Maa is more real to him than him own body, or the clothing on his backs or even his own Personality”!!!! This was totally Outrageous when I first heard it.
The people that work under Sai Maa can not be realistically be in a relationship with someone who does not accept, embrace or rejoice in the devotion of Love to Sai Maa. It’s not possible for them! Like Robots they are Wired to the Core. It’s a HUGE disconnect for them, if the other person is not into Sai Maa in some way, he also told me these things. There is absolutely no future with any of the members of Sai Maa if you not willing to go down that road and bath with Sai Maa, if you are not aligned internally & spiritually. THIS IS A FACT!!! And this is TOTALLY SICK!!!
It broke my heart to hear my ex say things like this to me. . .
It doesn’t get clearer than that for them. They are Sick twisted Brainwashed people.
They all seem like fun, happy, full of light individuals but they are nicely passive-aggressive and phony at showing how they truly feel inside because they are under the influence of Sai Maa. They have even gone as far as selling out there own Mothers and believing that Sai Maa is en-fact there real mother !
For them it’s very simple, “Everything is Maa”. Sai Maa works to convince her followers that she is literally God. Which is on a pure level is SICK!!! All the student devotees of Sai Maa are mainly foolish white Americans some are young and many others are older who practice like this all the time without fail. There are hardly but a hand full of minorities working for Sai Maa which always for me seemed very odd. I’m pretty sure if most of these student were instructed to jump off a bridge some of them would do it. They wear white sheets, shave there heads bald, chant all day, kiss the ground she walks on and her feet as well. They are poisoned from the inside, wired to serve and do all that Sai Maa ask of them. The Brain washing and conditioning goes very deep en-fact there is a lot of open touching and feeling amongst all the members to share themselves. At this level the way Sai Maa works it may as well be Rape, because it is exactly that. She is bleeding her disciples dry and alienating them from their families.
If you are in contact with any of these members I suggest you be careful or even in a relationship, they will try hard to get you to drink the Cool-aid of Sai Maa, not right away but when an opportunity comes they will get you to meet Sai Maa and when they do she will do her best to get to join there group or gatherings and participate in some way shape or form they meet on a regular basis (weekly, bi-weekly or monthly). It is about energy but the energy put out there is negative, this is a very sinister cult not at all about healing or clearing blockages. Each member is an introvert and not sure of who they really are, they want to be apart of a group but they just don’t fit in at all, and its because of Sai Maa and the way she has them conditioned and brainwashed. Totally warped around her finger. And yes they all say on the phone a code to each other, they are instructed to say “Om Jai Jai Sai Maa” all the time when greeting each other, my ex boyfriend did it all the time without fail, it made me sick to hear him say this all the time even in front of our friends and family.
ReplyDeleteAlso do remember this is a money machine, each person that meets Sai Maa pays up to $2,000 to $4,000 just to vist and see her with hotel and flight. Each Person!!! Thats a lot on money & a lot luxury for Sai Maa who hides behind her Global Humanitarian efforts with all her homes scattered around the U.S., Europe and cars and obedient devotee Slave! Each member receives an allowance of money this is very true. Sai Maa’s need for money is huge. She is effective in getting her desired result which is a combination of money, free labor, and more new members.
Sai Maa is NOT LOVE
Sai Maa is a FRAUD of LOVE
She is dangerous especially to Young People. They want new Young people to join there organization and are working hard to get new members to join. They are working on new steps including new video’s to get new and younger members. It’s time people joined together and put a stop to this Cult Organization for good and debunk her to all the world. People in India know she is a Fake. If you show her website to an Indian, he or she will immediately know she is a fake. She is NOT a master she is a FRAUD that preys on the weak the way all fake guru’s do!
Wow!!!!!! All of this is very interesting. I wish I had seen this site before I attended a meeting with Sai Maa here in Montreal Canada at St. James United Church for Darshan. I attended it on a Saturday with a close friend that invited me to check it out and who held her in such high esteem. She told me it will move me and make me see life different. It really was not all she made it out to be.
ReplyDeleteThis Sai Maa is totally a phony, you can see all the prep work made for a “mystical” experience putting on a show with lots of theatrics and you can clearly see them more than any enlightenment. She appears like a person that has a personality disorders. The messaging and the speech she gave was a load of rubbish too. Stuff we had all heard before about whats happening in the world. Her students or devotees seem nice but are clearly nice passive-aggressive, especially when you ask certain questions about Sai Maa. Then there is the fee $$$ for her workshops which were totally overpriced, this is where they make there money. She is in for the money and I defiantly felt that. I felt the whole thing to be a sham.
Its actually funny how not a single devotee of this woman has written to defend her on this site? It’s actually the best course of action they can take. Whether it’s actually true or not, defending herself in public and semi-public forums like this one would not establish any innocence, it would only increase her exposure on the matter.
She is a clever old fox good at her game, extremely good at manipulating and very charming. If some people feel attracted by appearance, jewelries, nice saris and calculated speeches, they have a weak perception of wisdom and compassion. There are real people out there who need help and she is claiming the ability to heal, while giving teachings that would interest the very fragile population susceptible to mental illness and delusion.
After being there this Saturday with her and her crazy smiling devotees and now reading all the comments on this site I will clearly stay away from this cult organization and also tell all my friends here in Montreal to do the same. Stay away!
This site is relatively new and not actively publicized, so it is no surprise that the response rates are still small and limited. I don't believe followers would have a reason to try to find a site like this. It's just an open space for people to express both good and bad experiences, so they know there are others.
DeleteWell, it's amazing no one has seriously reported this organization to the proper authorities, seeing all that people have to say, this site should be called “Sai Maa Cult”. These are not lies that people are saying but the truth. I just don’t understand how she could possible get away with all the complaints written about her controlling people and destroying couples relationships.
DeleteThis is clearly not an organization that helps people at all. If you ask me she should be deported, here in Canada they need to stop her at the airport and the laws need to be stringent to stop people like this who and are causing a lot of problems here and around the globe. Not to mention her closeness to this Sai Baba the Guru sexual predator who has criminal sexual assaults charges that I see all over the news.
All I have to say is void Gurus, ESPECIALLY this one!
I just did some googling and found this resource – I really wish I had found it before.
ReplyDeleteI just attended the Sai Maa event here in England and I wish I came across this site before to attend this event. I went because my good friend asked me to go, she said this would bring me some good energy to recharge my soul. I felt like it couldn’t’ hurt and I should give anything a try with an open mind. Well in-fact it did the opposite, I tried to sit the evening with an open mind, it brought me discomfort and equally boring. I have to say I felt the energy of eyes watching he crowd first off and then there was the abundance of flowers and chanting sending mystic vibrations into the universe. I got the feeling this was truly a Cult! Without even second thinking it, half of the audience were people who had been to see this Sai Maa before as I found out from talk to many of the people there. They worshiped Sai Maa and told me that there very life was depended solely on Sai Maa and that was why they always attended all her events. Mmmmm. They even told me that they attribute all of the good things in there life to her. It was very very strange and very rigged, it felt staged with theatrics and rehearsed speeches. Bloody hell the looks on some of the people faces was frightening with eyes gazing at this woman as if she was some kind of God. Sheeeezzzzzzz………!
One woman said that she was not sure to come back to see Sia Maa because of all the reports of problems within the organization but despite that she came to get her blessing with the feather. Many of the members sounded a bit strange. The level of commitment was really strange. Bloody drama..? Reading now through this web-site I can see clearly that she has grossly committed illegal activity directly harming others in there lives and relationships. Its Clearly evident.
None of the things she communicated were at all new, we all already knew about the world and the changes happening around the globe, nothing new at all. Her 50 cent speeches are really just 50 cent, nothing really quite amazing to say the least. The dose of Sai Maa’s medicine was really nothing. Everyone from her organization smiling and constantly being happy, as long as people are happy as individuals, or believe they are, they will not connect to others. And connection is what we need, a critical mass for change in the world, these fake smiles were meaningless. It’s mind-boggling! I could definitely see the under the influence brainwashing on some of the faces of people, the dependency and manipulation and superstitious thinking very clearly shown.
Yes, thinking *special thoughts* doesn’t actually change anything. It certainly doesn’t change reality! Neither does repeating magic chants or spells - whatever you wish to call them. Sai Maa uses words nothing magical about that, magical thinking is deeply primitive and deeply childish and when looking at these Hippies you can see a foolish child in them.
I agree that the spiritual world out there has been twisted and turned and more twisted and turned by people like Sai Maa. There should be a Law banning people like this coming to England especially if they are clearly a cult religious group trying to enlist new recruits to brainwash and destroy there lives. We have seen the ugly deceptive side of cults here in England for many, many years now and yet still they seem to pop up like Sai Maa. Many have been exposed and looking at this site and all the rest of sites talking about Sai Maa I sure she will be totally and completely exposed like Sai Baba who she did have beside her on a table along with flower and vase.
Sai Maa is Bollocks!
Thank you everyone on this site who is telling the truth about Sai Maa to dispel the illusions and reveal the secrets I will defiantly spread the word here in England.
Thanks for this space..very grateful…indeed
Simon, thank you for your eloquent, gracefully-worded insight.
DeleteMany people do not understand just how destructive a cultic group can be. There are thousands of groups like this in the U.S. alone. Sai Maa is indeed delusional and these people are not properly trained to deal with real issues faced by people outside in the world. They are Spiritual Cons without a doubt and I have seen them all.
ReplyDeleteI say this to everyone that asks me about Sai Maa, do not be Seduced by this cult. Sai Maa has no Integrity they use young peoples openness to there advantage by telling them they are not on the right path so that you can be depended on them. She will try to always portray herself as a regular person however the mantel she carries is that she is the Fem Goddess endowed with special powers.
This Cult has tangled many, many family ties. She cuts people off from there families breaking ties to control everything in your life. She lies to people about the rewards and punishment s they will receive. There is Abuse going on in this Cult and it is a pattern. Normal rules do not apply to Sai Maa.
Its you doing what she wants but for a higher purpose which is absurd! Normal rules do not apply to cults like Sai Maa.
I encourage everyone to watch two insightful movies one is called “HOLY HELL” and amazing documentary by Will Allen about a young idealist filmmaker documented 20 years of living inside a cult named the Buddhafield Cult that changed how he would see the world forever. The other is called “DEPROGRAMMED” a film by Mia Donovan about Ted Patrick nicknamed “Black Lightening.”
Power corrupts, and Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely. Sai Maa is a Cult. Do not be Seduced by this cult or it’s members. Even now they are asking for money on there new web-site
https://www.lightlegacy.org/en
Do not trust this web-site and all the people on this new Sai Maa web-site all are Spiritual Cons who will destroy your lives and your families lives!
Adam, you are brave to come out a tell your story and tangled web that this cult has created for many people around the world ! There needs to be a movie made about this cult and Im pretty sure there is one being created as we speak.
DeleteI saw the movie "Holy Hell" and YES she is exactly like that cult leader, and when I say exact she too has gone through Plastic Surgery and her face looks horrible now!!! She is a told narcissistic creature obsessed with the way she looks and the way she is presented.
Can't wait to see the film about this cult !